. they want to strike when the fire is hot. you know, name your cliche, that certainly seems the way things are headed. the question is how quickly can they come from the meeting going on behind here with joe biden, the vice president, and his fellow democrats in the senate, and how quickly can they go from that to a vote on the senate floor? sources that we're talking to here in the hallways think it can happen rather quickly, more quickly than you would thin. one thing i wanted to talk to you about because this is an issue, the fiscal cliff, it sounts esoteric, and it is, but it has an affect on every american. one people should note is not in the deal because it was never on the table, is a payroll tax, what is effectively a payroll tax hike. it's actually a payroll tax holiday expiring. everybody agreed they were not even going to touch that. they were going to allow that to expire. what that means in real terms for americans when they're looking at their paychecks is they're going to see a 2% bite out of their paychecks starting on january 1st. for a worker making $50,000 a year, 2% is

still call no-brainers if that's not too bad a cliche. people ought to get serious penalty penalties if they buy a gun that they intend to pass on to a criminal. people ought to be able to pass a background check which takes about 90 seconds out of their lives. he is in the big middle of this country where 800 mayors are, where about 80% of the country is. and the nra is increasingly marginalizing itself. i can't quite figure out why. >> you see, my issue this, with the political part of this is i can understand certain republican congressmen and women who are in red states and who genuinely believe that actually these proposals are wrong. but there are a number of republicans i think who actually would be persuaded on some of these arguments, but who won't even think about going there because of fear of retribution from the nra. and as for the democrats who apparently are threatening to stand up to the president on this, i just don't believe them. i think they're only doing that for political expediency. >> well, in the weird thing about this is if you actually look closely at the n

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